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Red Gulch "Studios" (Victor, NY)

recently getting involved with a guy who started a company called "Red Gulch Studios." Only, the more I found out about his "company" and the way he treated not only people doing work for him, but his family and complete strangers, I bailed.
So, it all started out pretty innocently enough. Last week I responded to a craigs list ad asking for an assistant for a start-up, immediate need. Well, I figured assisting is easy enough, and I've got an immediate need. He had me meet him in a park about 40 minutes from my house. Sketchy, I agree. But I thought why not give him a chance. I took a friend, a pocket knife, and some mace and met up with him. He seemed harmless, talked a bit about his game. The concept how much he believed in it and that he needed someone to help him keep the ball rolling- keep him on track. His ad mentioned 8.00/hour and that's what I figured he wanted for part-time help. In the meantime, I kept looking for more stable and better paying work.
I met up with him a few times at various locations once I learned he didn't have an office. Soon after finding that out he was talking about how his developers, programmers, and lawyer were all working for free, expecting to be paid at the end. I figured, hey if people agree to that that's fantastic. EDIT: But then he started backing out and trying to change the way he paid me. Wanted to pay me in stuff to sell on craigs list, then wanted to pay me half of what 40 hours at minimum wage would be now and half in a lump sum at the end (and his math was wrong). And then when I asked to just put me on salary he balked and insisted we meet in person to discuss something else entirely.
But then he started having me call the developers/programmers and talking to them for him. Telling me what to say and how to say it and having them meet up with us so I could tell them that "It just doesn't work that way" when they asked about pay... At this point, I kept my mouth shut a lot. I watched him interacting with them and listened to both sides trying to figure out what was really going on amidst all the bullshit. I decided that since I wasn't sure and I wasn't comfortable talking to these guys and convincing them to keep not being paid that I was done. I told Justin that I would accept a minimum payment for the last week of work of 80 dollars and he could mail it to me. No hard feelings, it's just not the work for me.
He told me he'd only do 75 because he bought me lunch once on the assumption we'd be working together long term. Although I accepted, it was begrudging. I do dislike that he made me drive 40 minutes one way out to meet with him and refused to meet any closer, ever.
He'd repeatedly complained about going out of town, having to meet with other people outside of his tiny town, and even believe it or not assistants who had quit unexpectedly before me.
So, I asked him to mail me the check, he told me I needed to talk to his lawyer. I asked who his lawyer was, he skirted around the question and told me his lawyer emailed him a pdf form of nda for me to sign (don't worry, I haven't signed it, I'm not breaking the law here). I asked him to email it to me so I could see it before I drove out there. He skirted around that as well, telling me it was basic stuff no worries.
So, I just wanted to give anyone else a heads up (especially Rochester students in this area who might be lead to believe he's genuine) about working with/helping this studio...

He doesn't have an office space, LLC tax title (or any tax title), anything patented, any actual employees (no one gets paid), or a lawyer. Please, be CAREFUL.
  • it's ok to contact this poster if you are a potential employer or other principal
  • Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.
  • do NOT contact me with unsolicited services or offers

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